Nothing to update just yet, Wendy. Don was in Puerto Rico for work all week, and is now taking Amy to get her flute fixed before the show she's in starts tonight. I imagine he'll do a bunch of work on it when he gets home... IF he can stand the heat - it's supposed to be up in the 90's again today - YUCK!
Are you going to plant grasses and stuff around it???? Benches? Figured all that stuff out yet? I guess that you probably won't be planting around it until next year right?
Oh, loz... you have NOOOOOOO idea how I am itching to plant and place around the pond!!! I have MANY plants waiting to be planted there, an adirondack chair, ottoman and table waiting to be assembled and placed there, an iron arbor bench waiting to be moved over there, 2 gargoyle statues still in their bags, citronella candle stakes waiting to stand out there, ohhhh, and some very nice, tall variegated grass like you have that is growing in other places for now, etc, etc, etc...
That's the fun part, decorating around the pond!!!! I might get another bench for mine---they are on clearance now. And next year I want Mark to build an arbor over the pond.
Thanks Wrennie, loz and Wendy! Once again, Wendy, you crack me up!!!
Oh.... can you see the glow from Don's back? He got soooooo sunburned on Sunday that it is glowing red! He hasn't slept for 2 nights now, tossing and turning everytime he lands on his back - so I haven't slept much either!
WOOOOOAH did it ever RAIN this morning from 2:30 to about 7!!!
They said on the news that we got about 2-3 inches an hour - that's a LOT of rain! So, the pond is fuller than ever, and Don's pump broke the last time he used it - of course he smashed it to smithereens then, out of frustration!!!
Thanks, tamara, Christy, and Wendy. I hope it ends up as well as you all are predicting!
Yep, Wendy - that's about how Don's back looks, but with tears instead of gritted teeth! Though with this rain, I'm sure it will be more like that pretty soon!
Lynn, that looks so great! So, how DO you keep from buying out the nearest nursery?! You - are - going - to - have - so - much - fun! I'm sure you're slathering Don with lots of love, attention and aloe. ;~D
I actually have a lot of plants just waiting to be moved alongside the pond - some that need to be divided badly, others that will go there in 1 piece, still others on my driveway still in pots! I am chomping at the bit to get out there and fill it all in! I have to wait til Don finishes the pond and can help me dig out the gardens - afterall... they don't call this Rockland County for nothing! The soil is very hard clay and there are rocks and boulders in it everywhere!!! We have bags of "town donated" compost to mix in, once he gets it all dug out too. I hope I get to do at least some of it before the weather turns this fall!
This is sooooooooo [color:#FF0000] NOT a good day for our pond today!
Firstly... we've had very heavy rains a few times this past week, and the entire front of the top of the pond fell into the bottom with the rainwater. :mad: All the rocks that Don painstakingly placed jigsaw puzzle like, plus some of the dirt behind them! The entire front ledge of rocks is gone!
Can you barely see the rocks under all that water???
(again, these pictures were taken through the screen window upstairs)
And then... to top it off... 2 of the large , that I've had for about 3 years now from my small bathtub pond, up and [b]DIED on me this morning! They were about 5 inches long, and I was anxiously awaiting the time that I could put them out in the pond. I do have to admit that I wasn't keeping the tank as clean as I could have been, because I really thought they'd be outside by now. My bad...
I didn't know that one could borrow a pump from the firestation - I'll mention it to Don - thanks tamara! He definitely is going to need to pump all that rainwater out - he still has all the electrical hook-ups to make, so that would be pretty dangerous! Christy - it wasn't the pond pump that broke - it was a small pump that he uses to pump out water wherever he needs to...
He's mowing the lawn right now, before he tries to attack all those issues. His back is itching, but I haven't had a chance to look and see if it's peeling from that bad sunburn last week - I've been running around with my daughter all week at night - she's in a show - and haven't really seen Don much. Let's hope he's wiser today about the sun! [/b] [/color]
Don apparently fixed his little pump - I thought it was worse off than it was... So he's pumping out the water now, and tanning his front to match his back while he waits!
It must be drained now... I can hear him throwing rocks out of the pond!
Ohhhhh mann Lynne all that hard work and mother nature makes a mudslide on one end Don is quite the guy to get right back at it again ,awwww Bless his heart. ANd sorry about your fish too
Well lets hope he doesn't get his front side burned as bad as his back was, Did you make sure he had sunscreen on? ..
Still~ in all the work Don is putting into it this , it is going to be one awesome pond!!
"Grace without perfection is more to be desired than perfection without grace."
I nominate Don ~~~ "Don of the Pond". Any guy having done that much backbreaking and backburning work, just to have to redo it and STILL gets right back to it has got to have patience, stick-to-itivness, and a title to show for it; not to mention a showpiece once it's done and you've preformed your landscaping majic.
Don of the Pond! Long may he...relax by the pond? ...bask in glory? ...reap the rewards of his labors? ...have a beer?
He worked on the pond ALLLLLLLL day long yesterday and I left him working on it at 6:45p.m. He went back out this morning at around 10, after having gone to the nursery to get some special tape for the liner.
He is ONE DETERMINED person when he has his mind set on a project!!! All the rocks in the foreground had already been meticulously placed around the front edge before the slide - can you say "round two"?
so sorry "don of the pond"! ok, the good news is it happened now and not after alot MORE work was done on it! at least with all that rain now, the rocks will settle (at the bottom ) and he can tell what needs to be touched up where! my little waterfall and stream that i put in back in march is still settling.
Thanks once again all - you all are the BEST cheering squad!!!
After much work over the weekend, the front wall is back up and finished! Don really wants to put water in the pond to help stabilize it, but doesn't have the time during the week to do that. He wants it filled before we get hit with more rain!
Here it is, as he's finishing up late yesterday...
Oh... I forgot to mention that he had bought a special saw to cut rocks - I tell you, the man is driven when he's working on a project!!!
Lynne, WOW! I haven't checked this out in a looooong time and I'm impressed your hole has turned into a beautiful pond! I can't wait to see it with water in it. What is that black bubble in the pond on the left? Again, WOW! Good work!
Looks better than ever! I'm really enjoying your pond building. It's very like watching a house take shape as you drive by it every day on your way to work. I find the process exciting, even if it is in a vicarious way. :~}
Thanks so much for sharing your pond. And thanks to for lettting us see how wonderful a relationship you and Don have. It's easy to see how hard he works to please you and equally obvious by your posts how much you appreciate his efforts.
Thanks once again, all! You all have been the best cheering squad, and I know it gives Don great pleasure to know that his progress is being followed by people all over the country!
He made great strides this past weekend! He layed all the electrical wires and connections, except for the malibu lights, which will be put in after we get the gardens dug out around the pond.
Here is the first line, going to the waterfall pump in the back:
And the beginning of the line that goes to the skimmer on the side:
And the little box that powers it all - he will hide this under a plant pot!
(the little black bubble in the bottom of the pond is the "drain" that takes the water up to the waterfall for recycling)
And here is the monster pump that will drive the waterfall! My "perfectionist" even spray painted the pvc pipe black, so it wouldn't stand out all that much!
He is all done with the mechanics and cannot WAIT to fill it up! He wants to be home when that happens, in case of any problems, so he'll have to wait until Saturday. We've been having rain for the past 6 days, so he'll have to pump out that water and clean it out one last time, before finally filling it for good!
We're soooo excited! Wonder how long it will take - it will hold about 7,500 gallons!!! (anyone want to pay our water bill?!? )
Triss - he is hoping that once it is filled, it will stabilize against rainwater causing any more slides. Time will tell...
Plants 'n pots tell hubby if he would like he could come to WV and building me a beautifully pond like that one. That is going to be so awesome when it is done. I am having problems with mine and like you when I get ready to work on it I have to pump the stupid water out and then work on it for a little then here comes the rain again. It seems to be a never ending battle. But mine is not as large as that one.
That is looking so good, Lynne. Don is a dynamo! Time how long it takes to fill. I'm interested. I know it takes ours longer to fill than some because our water supply is gravity fed, very low pressure.
~Tina
Drama Free Zone. What every gardener loves the most, Begins and ends in rich compost. (Tina)
DANG....now that is a pump!!!!!!!! saturday then? i will check in! wonder how looooonnnnngggg it will take to fill up? and the thrill of watching the water fall for the first time........i am so thrilled for you! tell don of the pond i said WAY TO GO!
You all have me chuckling so much - thanks! :wink: I've just told Don all your compliments, and he says thanks too! He thinks he's going to use 2 hoses to fill it, so instead of taking about 10 hours, it will hopefully only take 6 - CRAZY!
I wish I had a working video camera, so I could tape the first water flowing down the falls and share it with you all. I'm going to have to see if one of our digital cameras has a working video mode - you've all been with us through this whole ordeal, and should be able to share in that moment.
I'm so excited!!! I just got my digital camera video to work, and figured out how to download it to PB, so now it just has to be still light out on Saturday for me to take one of the beginnings of the waterfall and share it with you all here!!!
i have to go help set up "Snip n Tip" sat. (the program once a month that is totally done with volunteer vets and techs that spay and neuter feral cats, tip the ear, then are released back where they came from. they usually do around 180 in 1 day)
i will be home late that nite, but this is the FIRST place i will check!!!!
Wendy - that sounds like a wonderful program! Wish they had something like that around here. But I must ask... what is "tip the ear"? I've never heard of that!
I hope all goes well for you on Saturday. Hopefully the video link will be here whenever you find your way to the forums - as long as I can continue to get the camera to work!
Lynne, that is where they take a little cut of the cats ear, like a tiny cropping, so when they see them out on the street etc. they know right away if he/she has been taken in and spayed/neutered without the trauma of being re-caught and examined.
Thanks Wrennie - I had a feeling it was a marking of that sort - just wanted to be sure. As I said... we don't have a program like that around here - but it surely would be nice!
Well... I just couldn't help myself!!! I had to go into PetSmart to get some stuff for my aquarium in this room, and while I was there I just HAD to buy the only small koi fish they had! He/she/it? was so very active and affordable, I just had to do it! I'm not even sure if it will be able to go in the pond this year since we are getting it up so late, but it will be fine in my tank if need be.
I also bought a very intensely orange comet - the girl in the fish department said that they put it in with the koi because of it's great color - they couldn't stand the thought of it being eaten as a "feeder" fish. And the best part is... it was only 26 cents just like the other feeder fish. I've already named it Dorito, because of that orange coloring!
Soooo, I was practicing using the video on my digital camera just now, and thought you might like to see my new fishies! The multi-colored one is the koi, and the comet is the other one. It's very nervous in its new tank.
"What big eyes you have, Grandmother" That koi looks like he/she has really big eyes. They both look a little nervous but that's natural. I would be nervous too if people in my vacinity were bandying around the word "feeder......." Good buys, Lynne.
~Tina
Drama Free Zone. What every gardener loves the most, Begins and ends in rich compost. (Tina)
I do believe they are nervous because the catfish in there wasn't being nice to them. He's had the tank all to himself ever since he killed all of the baby swordtail fish I had in there (after I took them out of the breeders net!). I took the video only about 1/2 hour after I put the new fish in tonight. I'm sure they'll be ok, as they are both about the same size as the catfish.
It's filling up as I type! I think he started it about 10:30 - will ask when he comes back inside. I took this video shortly after that (again through the bathroom screen, as it's the best vantage point for right now) - he was busy straightening out the liner so there wouldn't be too many bumps and lumps on the bottom.
He's currently working on the more rounded rocks that will be on the top edge around the pond - that's the last thing for him to do, other than helping me by digging out the surrounding gardens. Yippee!
Well... it was an awfully hot and oppressive day out today - the temperature got up well into the 90's but the humidity was the worst I've ever experienced anywhere - JUST AWFUL! It got so bad, that at one point I just had to come inside and shower - my face was BEET red, and at first I thought it was sunburn, but it was actually my pressure!!! Very scary - fortunately all was well after I showered and took a short nap. I really don't know how Don stayed out as much as he did today - he even mowed the lawn too!
Soooooooo a few embarassing things... and some re-thinking that I need to do now... Don somehow miscalculated the size of the pond - BY A LOT!!! Instead of being 7,500 gallons as he's been saying all summer long, he now says it's about 3,000! Quite a big difference, especially where koi fish are concerned. They can grow to anywhere between 24-36 inches, and need space! Also, it is not as deep as I was originally told it would be, so now I'm not even sure that I will be able to overwinter koi - I've read that they need from 3-3 1/2 feet depth in areas where it freezes over winter. Now he is saying it is 2 1/2 feet deep, but the "guy from the nursery said that would be ok". I need to do more research now...
It does look very nice though, but the pump is not putting out the "big waterfall effect" that Don was thinking it would. He's already replaced a pipe, hoping that would do the trick, but it didn't. He needs to adjust some of the bottom rocks for a better flow, but that's not going to increase the volume of the fall. I'm hoping he calls the pump company on Monday to see what they might suggest, or the pond store where he bought it... he really was expecting a much more forceful flow.
Here is the video - I'm sorry it's so blury - you can definitely tell it was done with a digital camera, though the first attempts came out much clearer.
Hope you can see the ornamental grasses that I moved from the driveway garden to the top of the hills by the waterfall - they were much too large for where they were, and really do help give the pond a more tropical feel. I have more grasses to move to the side gardens once we dig those out.
I will post some still pictures in my next post...
OMG Lynne All those videos are great!!!!!!! Even with the water flowing lighter then you wanted it still looks awesome!!!!!!! I Love it!!!!! And everything you have put around it , so far is awesome!!!! Big kudos To Don of the Pond and to you!!! What a well documented project!!
"Grace without perfection is more to be desired than perfection without grace."
This first one is when the pond was all filled up before he turned the waterfall on - see how clear the water is? The waterfall brought down a bunch of dirt and dust that is now settling in the pond - it was very cloudy after he started it up.
Next are some of the things I put on/in the left side of the waterfall hill... some white quartz rocks that my dad gave me from his golf course, some variegated creeping sedum, and my gargoyle friend who is SOOOOOOO glad to be out of the bag and outside already! I've had him and his brother for months!
and the right side...
pond with grasses - I've been growing them for 2 years now, and they make a much better impact here, than where I had them before!
Can't wait to get more plants moved over there - but it's raining today... and Don is at a neighbor's house cutting up a tree that came down yesterday - it will probably take him all day - the poor guy can't even get some rest today with the rain...
and a few things to remember lynne. first, i'd get someone (don?) to walk out into the middle of the pond with a yardstick and get an accurate depth. period. if you use a wooden yardstick and keep it out of the water until you get ready to poke it in, you will know that either it is over 3 ft deep, or how shallow it really is.
second, remember you are creating a "micro-climate" with the grasses and plants and water, and it will probably be a lot warmer there than the rest of your yard. just some thoughts for you.
also, while you might not have a huge number of koi, 3k is enough to have a few. as long as you have the rest of the support system in place for them.
Jiffy - the pond is at MOST 2 1/2 feet in the center - it is more like 25 inches at the outer edges. I know this for a fact. But Don keeps insisting that the owner of the big nursery here told him that he overwinters koi in only 18 inches! I think he must have some heavy duty heater to be able to pull that off, and that is just not an expense we can put into the pond right now. We will have to get at least a de-icer to make a hole for the gas exchange however. I'll have to research and compare costs on the two.
I think I'm going to have to just get a few very inexpensive koi like the one I got this week, and try really hard not to get attached to them. Afterall... aside from freezing to death, I also have to worry about the racoons, and today for the first time I saw the BIG FAT FATHER WOODCHUCK up on TOP of the waterfall!!! :mad: He has never ambled up this close to the house, let alone anywhere near the pond - must really like the cascading effect of the fall. He ran as soon as he heard me at the window - back down to his burrow under the shed!
The first fish will definitely be experimental, and not at all expensive.
LYnne: I Love your Pond---From the pictures, I thought it looked like you "could" add a bit more water,---is there restrictions to the depth?/ or was the pictures you showed before the water was all in?
whatever the case "Don-of-the-Pond" did an amazing job and so did you with the "landscaping". You can both be very proud of your work.
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Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the rain!! .....
Carol Jean... that is as high as it can be filled because of the skimmer level, so that was another surprise for me - I did think that he kept telling me that the water would go 1/2 way up the rocks - another adjustment in vision that I need to make.
I do really appreciate all the hard work that Don put into making this for us , please don't get me wrong. I just had different expectations because of what he had been telling me... , and now need to make adjustments around how it actually came out.
Lynne, I love your new pond ...I've been waiting for the day we'd be able to see it all pulled together and it's exciting to finally see it! Don did a great job--no project gets finished without a small kink here and there. For the size of the project things worked out very well!
Be prepared. I get tons of animals coming and drinking out of mine. Never did much when I just had a small pond but now all kinds of animlas come around and knock stuff into it(rocks, statues, etc). I think mostly it's stray cats at my pond though although we do have a resident groundhog here.
My pond book said 3 feet deep for overwintering fish in a pond in this type of climate....but maybe they'll make it. My old pond was only 26-28 inches deep and I had mosquito fish make it thru the winter even though I thought I'd caught them all. Not sure if I'll get a deicer or not.....I read a tip that said to float basketballs in your pond in winter to stop it from totally freezing solid so I may just try that.
You must be so thrilled that it's all finally coming to an end--now it's full and you are planting around it.
I can't wait to see more as you keep filling in with plants and decorations and seating!
Lynne ~ This is GREAT! I've been enjoying your pond all the way from Maine! Thanks for sharing the photos and the story.
Merme
We were given two hands to hold, two eyes to see, two ears to listen & two legs to walk. But why were we given only one heart? The other heart was given to another for us to find.
Wow, Lynne, your pond looks fantastic! Thanks for the videos, those are so cool and give a great feel to the pond that a stationary pic just couldn't provide. You both did a great job!
Everything was put on hold this week while Don tried to figure out how to get the waterfall flowing with a bit more force. He's changed the angle of the piping from the pump to the waterfall, and reconfigured some of the rocks down the falls.
He also needs to vacuum out the pond - there is a lot of dirt in the bottom from the first burst of water, and now from working on it once again. He also bought some stuff that is supposed to coagulate the dirt to make it easier to remove?
So, no fishies out there yet. And yes, I was hoping to overwinter koi out there, because they will get far too big to fit in any tank we have indoors.
Oh, Lynne, how beautiful!!!!! I'm so happy for you and Don. Everything looks great. Love the gargoyles! Where'd you get them? The grasses look like they're very happy there. Keep up the pics so we can enjoy your growing paradice.
I got those 2 at Christmas Tree Shops the beginning of summer. But yesterday, Amy and I found these 3 who needed a nice home, at Dollar Tree - it's a new store here, and they had them out with their Halloween stuff. We just had to grab these - and they were the only ones that did not have a foot or wing broken off - sheeeesh!
Amy especially wanted the frowning one - what's up with that???
Ohhhhhhhhhh, Don saw our first in the new pond this morning. (We had 2 frogs in the tiny bathtub pond last summer!) He was just floating on the top of the water, but when he saw Don, he did a nose dive to the bottom of the center of the pond. We can't see him, because there is still a lot of dirt down there that Don will hopefully be able to vacuum out when he gets home soon.
I just hope he doesn't vacuum the frog up too!!! EWWWWWW!
Hey you got a good Buy with those three!! I like the frwoning one too! ... is the gargoyles going to be the theme of the pond?? OR are they special touches ,, What else are you planning on incorporating around the pool.. A bench/sitting area or two??
"Grace without perfection is more to be desired than perfection without grace."
Wendy - we just got those gargoyles at Dollar Tree 2 days ago, but as I said... they were the only ones of the whole bunch that did not have a broken off foot or wing!!!
Dodge - see this thread for info on gargoyles... //www.agardenersforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/121262#Post121262
Diane - I think they will just be accents around the pond, though I am having fun finding ones with different facial expressions! I didn't realize, after I bought the first 2, months ago at Christmas Tree Shops, that they are sold around Halloween time - I'll have to keep an eye out for them now!
Yep - I have an adirondack bench, ottoman, and table set in blue for one side, and the iron arbor bench for the other, but they won't be placed until we dig out the gardens and I put some plants in there.
The grasses I planted on top of the waterfall hill are drying out and browning completely!!! It's really hard to water them up there, and the dirt mound is sooooooo dry that even when I do, the water seeps through the mound. Everytime they've predicted rain since I planted them, it's passed us by. I'm just hoping they hang on til frost so they can perk up again next spring.
Ohhhhhhhhhhh - poor Don!!! He started up the pump again late yesterday afternoon, and it had 2 leaks in the pipes!!! He had to run to Home Depot at 9p.m. to get some stuff to fix it up again today - the poor guy can't catch a break!!! The GOOD news is... that the flow was a bit stronger when he turned the pump back on, so he's happy about that!
Dodge - I'd like to see what you have - I need something to cover this hill. I planted 4 creeping junipers on the backside yesterday, but once planted they looked so small!!!
Tina - I'm not sure what we will do to hide the pump - it is BIG!!!
Not sure if we have a soaker hose, Diane - I think not, but I'll ask Don - great idea!!!
Here is the photo of the lil moss like stuff for around stones.....carefree.. grows in around stones and only about 3 inches tall.. always. LMK if you want some.
Dodge is that a low growing sedum??? Does it ever get tiny yellow or white blooms on it? I have some that looks simular to that , that spreads very quickly and blooms tiny yellow flowers!
Opppps Closing this one it is over count!!!!!
Opening another one We are not done looking Lynne!!
lynne, what about a sweet autumn clematis???? i don't know if it is slow to start like the others...mine came with the house....but it has grown very quickly and in the late summer it has tiny little white flowers all over. it will climb on anything or you can let it go as ground cover and it will ramble across the ground. about 2 months ago, we took down a tree that had it grown almost all the way up to the top, i cut it down to the ground, it has since come out better than ever...even in this hot, dry weather.
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