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#119068 June 4th, 2005 at 04:08 AM
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My favorite kit kitten kit is being harassed by an unidentified snake. If it's a good, golpher eating snake, that's cool but she's gotta know if it is poisonous or not!

Can someone please ID this viper for her?

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#119069 June 4th, 2005 at 04:16 AM
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If it's a good, golfer eating snake
dev heeheeeheeee~~~~>

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#119070 June 4th, 2005 at 04:18 AM
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With out being funny this time,
that is a big snake, I couldn't imagine
living in a place with the potential of
a snake that size.

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#119071 June 4th, 2005 at 04:22 AM
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Thank you Bill....I don't like snakes.....he/she/it is approx. 6 ft. long and very pissed off now...he doesn't like the tip of his tail touched with a LONNNNNNg handled garden rake TWICE now.LOL Shooed him away once into the orange grove behind but he's baaaaaaccccckkkkk!!!! I don't like snakes!!!!

He was coming down my weed/gopher infested hill (anybody want some purslane or any other weed...plenty to go around...LOL)....I tried to direct him into the orchard the first time and he decided to climb into my smaller bouganvilla bush and hide for awhile....then I shooed him through the chainlink fence and now he is back.

I had a really nice looking black and yellow california king snake here last year...but I had the fire dept. come pick him up for relocation.
Did I forget to mention I don't like snakkkkkkkeeeeSSSSSS... sca sca sca sca

#119072 June 4th, 2005 at 04:26 AM
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shocked I am sooooooooooo embarassed! shocked
golpher... g..o..l..p..h..e..r.. golpher!

I think.... HEY! It's been a verrrrry long week! :p

#119073 June 4th, 2005 at 04:32 AM
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Sorry Bill, I just couldn't help myself..

I am really bad when it comes to spelling..
I spot `em a mile away...

And BTW, it's G~O~P~H~E~R...
(***Or is there a snake by that name
and I've never heard of it???***)

I know it's been a long week!!!
just couldn't help it....
I was picturing it eating those golfers...
Got a good giggle out of it!!!

#119074 June 4th, 2005 at 04:36 AM
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Personally, I really hate snakes. I would bag that sucker and take him far far FAR away!!

#119075 June 4th, 2005 at 04:41 AM
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Here is a picture of a gopher snake. It looks very similar. But I am no expert and would not hazzard a guess.

http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/images/pccateniferch2.jpg

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And BTW, it's G~O~P~H~E~R...
BTW... did I mention the gallon and a half of Hornitos in the past week... can we all say "Brain Dead" Bill? <img border="0" alt="[perplexed]" title="" src="graemlins/confused.gif" />

#119077 June 4th, 2005 at 04:50 AM
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laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh muggs

#119078 June 4th, 2005 at 05:02 AM
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That looks pretty close to the same snake. But I am no expert on snakes. Just know the ones we have around Texas,Oklahoma,New Mexico area's like the Rattler's been bit twice by Rattler's Copper Heads been bit by one of these two teach me to play with snakes huh? Not! Also have Side Winders, Cotton Mouth Moccosin as well as the Racers used to catch these and have races between the Red, Yellow and Green Racers won money and lost money on these races. laugh
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It is probably: Pine Snake, Bullsnake or Gopher Snake. All these names refer to the same species, a powerful constrictor that seeks out rodents in their burrows and occasionally climb trees in search of birds or eggs. Pine snake is the eastern ; bullsnake, the midwestern, gopher snake in the western states.

Info from RD North American Wildlife.

From California Poison Action Line:
http://www.calpoison.org/public/snakebite.html

[qoute]How are non-poisonous snakes different from rattlesnakes?
In comparison, non-poisonous snakes have round pupils in their eyes. A non-poisonous snake tends to look more like a snake a child rolls out of clay: the head, neck and body have more-or-less the same diameter. They do not share the distinct skinny neck of the rattlesnake. This is true only of snakes native to California and does not apply to exotic snakes or snakes imported into California from elsewhere.

The Pacific Gopher snake and the common Bull snake have markings that are similar to a rattlesnake. These rattlesnake-like markings are a protective defense against enemies. But neither the Gopher Snake nor the Bull snake has the distinctive skinny neck that a rattler has. Still, many people are fooled into thinking that a Gopher or Bull snake is a rattlesnake. Bull snakes and Gopher snakes can cause a painful bite but they are not dangerous like a rattlesnake.

Be safe, be smart: Leave snakes alone and avoid a bite. [/quote]

#119080 June 4th, 2005 at 05:08 AM
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*clink*clink* Cheers!!!!!


psssss......I think snakes are cool.

#119081 June 4th, 2005 at 05:11 AM
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Thank goodness we only get garder snakes....and they only come if we don't cut the grass in a long time or if the garden gets overgrown.....like now. sca

#119082 June 4th, 2005 at 05:27 AM
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Jenn....From:" just down the road a bit" ....anywhere close to California?...LOL..you comin over to bag him....he isn't a happy camper right now.LOL

TK....surrrrrre looks like a gopher snake to me. Thank you for finding the picture. kissies

#119083 June 4th, 2005 at 05:32 AM
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garder snakes
Are those only sexy~girl smile snakes, since they wear garder's?? wink laugh laugh
BTW, aren't they called "garter snakes"?

Geesh, I didn't know there were so many new kinds of snakes out there??!!!???~~~~~~~~~~~~>
Golfer Snakes that eat Golfers....
Garder Snakes that wear Garders...

Sorry guys, I'm aweful giddy tonight,
lack of sleep zzzzz !!!
Or toooooo much fertilizer.... shocked laugh

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Thank you for the info Papito....I was actually outside checking up on a mockingbird baby that flew out of the nest this morning....he was testing out his wings for several hours.....mother/father would swoop down, squaking at me protecting the baby. I also have three other nests on the property that I know of and a bunch of gopher holes right now.

Can those gopher snakes climb up a good sized liquid amber tree? The bottom branches are about 12 ft. off the ground....there is a baby bird in one of my bird boxes. I'm going to have to check out that bougainvilla bush and see if it happened to get the little hummingbird eggs. :rolleyes:

#119085 June 4th, 2005 at 05:48 AM
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Or toooooo much fertilizer
So we can say you are full of "it" tonight?!
JUST KIDDING Weezie!!!!!

#119086 June 4th, 2005 at 05:53 AM
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Just tonight???????????

#119087 June 4th, 2005 at 06:00 AM
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laugh I hit add reply too quick...I was going to change it...to "AGAIN"!!! laugh laugh laugh laugh
JUST KIDDING!!!!!!
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#119088 June 4th, 2005 at 06:40 AM
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or still laugh catlover : most snakes or more afraid of you then you are them they will run if given a chance even Rattle Snakes want to be left alone but if cornered they will strike make no mistake of that or if some fool keeps teasing them. But not me not me teech yeah right!

#119089 June 4th, 2005 at 08:29 AM
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Put out some moth balls around the areas that you don't want him in and you shouldn't have anymore problems... Or-- maybe I should say put them out around a FEW lala of the places that you want it to stay away from the most... wink

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O.K.-- one more bit of info and I'm done with the snake thing... from the apparent size and shape of the snake's head it does NOT appear to be poisonous... the length you stated tends to support that fact as well. Poisonous snakes that are truly indigenous to North America don't tend to get that long. As a GENERAL rule four to four and a half feet is way up on the scale for ones that are poisonous. Yes the snake can climb your tree but as I stated in my other post just put out some moth balls around your tree and wherever else you want to really protect from it and you should be o.k. I hope this make it a little easier for you to sleep tonight... wink wink

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Hey Weezie...I live in town...can you imagine what kind/size of snakes are out of town.

Tricia...how many cases of mothballs do I need to protect a 1/3 acre? <img border="0" alt="[perplexed]" title="" src="graemlins/confused.gif" /> laugh Just kidding....he would probably come in from a gopher hole on the neighbors side and be trapped in here.LOL
"Yes the snake can climb your tree"....thanks a lot...you know how heightened my senses are right now....so if that means he can climb that tree...he can climb my overhead trellis's that I have covering the whole length of my house on the back side and coming in my front door. Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeat!!!
Paranoia setting in!!!!

Guess who is baaaaaack this morning!!! I wonder if he/she/it has a nest of eggs already laid!!! It sure came back pretty quick after I shooed it off the first time.

That thing is NOT afraid of me at all. It just lays all stretched out....I can wave or lay that garden rake right next to his face and pound it and he won't move....my daughter tossed a few small pebbles at it yesterday on it's body and it didn't move. The only thing that upset him was when I was behind it and touched it's tail....then he was not a happy camper.

Well....just knowing he is not poisonous is a HUGE relief....it is just the not knowing where he is at all times or like this morning....walking the property with my cup of coffee and then there he is.....you know how much they blend into leaf litter!....was bad enough having to watch out above for big garden spiders...now having to watch for snakes dangling from tree branches. LOL

We had A LOT of rain this year so all the rodents have increased populations....so you know what happens to the snake population.
Where are those red~tailed hawks when you need them.LOL

There is a nest of screech(sp?)owls a couple houses over from here in some really big trees....I wonder if they would catch something that big. A few weeks ago, flying within 12 ft. of me was some kind of smaller hawk that had a big rat in it's claws....it was soooo cool....even if I had the camera right then it would of been too fast to get but ohhhh what a Kodak moment.

If that snake agrees to stay out of my way I will stay out of it's way(maybe I should get that in writing...LOL)....otherwise I am calling the fire dept. for snake relocation.
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Go for the relocation. No matter what you get signed. Snake bites are nasty even when not the posionous variety. And your right they are not easy to see in natural surroundings. One suprised ooops can turn into one nasty owwwwwie.

A snakes teeth point inward so they cannot disengage even if they want to.

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