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yikes

Here is a Bill question.
I read today the Internet will be gone in 3 years.
No more numbers for the folks Say like (Bill) with a forum.

Suppose to switch to something else .....More nasty.......
Hey everyone dont buy a new computer for 4 years.



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It's always something isn't it.....


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Originally Posted by dodge
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Here is a Bill question.
I read today the Internet will be gone in 3 years.
No more numbers for the folks Say like (Bill) with a forum.

Suppose to switch to something else .....More nasty.......
Hey everyone dont buy a new computer for 4 years.

teach The internet will continue to evolve, but it isn't going away any time soon. I am sure of that!

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Ok Bill,

Thanks ..I should of copied that thing.



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Originally Posted by Bill
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yikes

Here is a Bill question.
I read today the Internet will be gone in 3 years.
No more numbers for the folks Say like (Bill) with a forum.

Suppose to switch to something else .....More nasty.......
Hey everyone dont buy a new computer for 4 years.

teach The internet will continue to evolve, but it isn't going away any time soon. I am sure of that!


Thanks Bill--very nice to hear-- thumbup


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I seriously cannot see it going away!! It makes things easier and the natural tenancy is to gravitate towards things that are easy and/or more efficient.


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That is not the issue......In the engineering end...They have run out of numbers for the Higher uppers who make the sites possible. What ever they are called.......They had 30 years worth of numbers, which could run out in 3 more years......
Noting to do with us......They have a new thing..to replace it , which is supposed to be hard and limited.. I cant find the story now .. FOx had it on , yesterday.


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Hey Dodge--sent you a PM. :wink:


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I highly doubt the internet will be gone in three years, unless if it's replaced by something better grin

People will and always made solutions to problems like this

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gO ASK fox NEWS they reported it .
Quit calling me a liar.


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P.s. I found the article
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,376871,00.html

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thanks for posting the link to the article. I went on fox looking for it, didn't find it right away, then got side tracked reading about the new digital tv conversion. ha ha.
interesting! I can see how it is happening. the internet, after all, was given to the general public before it should have been. it wasn't designed for general public use in the first place.


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the web isn't going anywhere any time soon!!

if you ever look at the address bar you'll see the site address with www. at the beginning.

that's not the only one. there's www1. www2. and so on. i've seen www6. recently.

yes, the numbers for the sites are being used up - they just added new 'area codes' to make more room...and the 'new' codes overlay what's already there - like how we've got 2 area codes here (the new one overlays the original) as well as in philadelphia. other areas of the country have done the same.




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yes, the numbers for the sites are being used up - they just added new 'area codes' to make more room..
teach Adding one digit to all IP addresses (like they periodically do with phone numbers) would create something like a trillion additional possible IP addresses. The internet founding fathers underestimated when they set up the system.
There are way too many rich folks who would become poor folks if the internet failed. Would you have a computer?, or windows software?, norton? if there was no internet? I wouldn't and I have 5 computers right now! (have to have a computer every 15 feet or so....) blush
Remember all the Y2K hubbub that never really came to pass?

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Correct Bill.



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Bill, what you posted makes good sense and is quite reassuring. Although I hadn't heard the report Dodge posted about, it certainly didn't sound promising.

And yes, I well remember the furor over Y2K. I knew people back home who were actively planning for the collapse of society and who were stocking up on dehydrated foods and buying generators, etc. I thought all that panic was a crying shame, I really did.

So thanks for your explanation, Bill.


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the extra digits on the site numbers has been happening for almost 10 years now. the extra layers of the web - the www1, 2, 3, etc. - is a more recent addition - only for about 4 years or so. and they're up to at least 6 already - probably more than that, actually.


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Oh god, something to respond to...

Ok, the Internet isn't going anywhere, no way, no how; too many business make major money with it...

www, www1, www2, etc are subdomains, they don't "exist" so to say, the only "meat" paid for is "thesite.tld"; any "thesite" can have as many subdomains that they want, it's their domain afterall. These subdomains are specified by their webserver configuration and are unlimited (however, if they keep track of traffic via a web based logger their stats will not all be attributed to their main site).

Generally speaking, these subdomains point to other servers within their network, or even specific services; such as "mail", or "dns", etc.

As for IP addresses, they won't just add one octset to the end, they actually made the IPv6 specification already to replace the current IPv4 implementation.

One thing to keep in mind is, with all internet technologies, there are clearly defined RFC's which specify every little ounce of information anyone could ever want to know about the item in question. There are also official organizations set forth to manage them (Such as ICANN.


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haha I knew that you would know! Now.... rolz what did you say?

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Originally Posted by Bill
haha I knew that you would know! Now.... rolz what did you say?
lol


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idea I believe you James!!!!!! zoink lol

BTW I'm soooooooooo glad there was a topic you could finally elaborate it! haha haha


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I believe I came in out of nowhere, said everyone was wrong, showed that I'm a total nerd, then walked off... At least that's how I feel after that post lol


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I just wanted to respond to this from page one...
Originally Posted by dodge
Hey everyone dont buy a new computer for 4 years.


I've been saving for years to replace my Laptop that I bought in 2000 that's literally broken; but funding never permits as I tend to blow it on other things, like cloths for my kid...

Darn my high standards with PC components...

It's funny though, cas when I bought my laptop, I made sure it was the best I could afford, which still beats some of todays specs ;)... (1gb ram, 40gb hd, 1.7ghz p4 processor)


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Naaaaaaaaaaaah You came in at right time to set most of us straight at least from what We can understand thru your technical language lol ,, the jest of it is , we don't have anything to worry about ,,,,,,,, period,,! thumbup :wink:

Being a / or feeling like a Nerd isn't a bad thing,, especially when you show up and strut your knowledge like in that post! lol lol !


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NO! I was just harassing you! I KNOW that what you're talking about when it comes to such matters. You're one of the smartest fellers I know! I don't think you said anyone was wrong...

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Hehe, they like me ;).. :x


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Originally Posted by Moguai
Hehe, they like me ;).. :x

We do and appreciate you, too. Thank you.


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Hehe, they like me ;).. :x

We do and appreciate you, too. Thank you.


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Originally Posted by Moguai
Hehe, they like me ;).. :x
of course they like you james. some of us even LOVE you! kissie and i actually understood about half of what you said touched lol

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of course they like you james. some of us even LOVE you! kissie and i actually understood about half of what you said touched lol
Is it becasue I said you hosteses where sexy? ;)...


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haha Flattery never hurts! lol

I have NO clue what you said, but I believe you because you are the computer expert around here......but what you said was like speaking a foreign language to me......do you have a Computer Tech to Laymens terms translator laying around anywhere? haha

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No, though I do have a latin translator guide :X


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Thanks James.........i remember you from last year ..We had your birthday party here.........

Boy I didnt mean to start a war with that Internet.

I sure am glad from all the information from everyone and James.....He is Bill's other angel..

rose

Hey James ........All Bills hostesses ARE sexy........Why not?

You ought to drop in more often....Hope I can think of another intelligent question......

lol

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Originally Posted by Moguai
I believe I came in out of nowhere, said everyone was wrong, showed that I'm a total nerd, then walked off... At least that's how I feel after that post lol


You did all that and they STILL love you! ....you must be one important dude!! grin


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I'm always here, but I usually stick to the hostess lounge lol... I was linked here by bill; figured I'd drop in and sharae my tech talent hehe


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Your welcomed here with open arms......
YOu cant imagine how frightened I was when I read that ......$$$$$$$$$$$$$ out the window for all of us.

We ought to get you out of the Hostess lounge and have Hints from James on here.
You can have fun with us too.

Huh Bill?


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mmm, fun with girls? That's one way to get me to come out of the hostess lounge ;).. :x


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Question James......

This stupid NO DIAL TONE thingy that pops on here frequently......
Question.....Isnt that the Server , no my line/

I beent with another server and it did that also..
I think they say that to cover their tracks??????


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Question James......

This stupid NO DIAL TONE thingy that pops on here frequently......
Question.....Isnt that the Server , no my line/

I beent with another server and it did that also..
I think they say that to cover their tracks??????


I had that problem (the no dial tone message) I think it was my server as well.--esp since the night before we had a storm and there was a recorded message at their place that said thanks for understanding about the internet that was down----My phone was working well and every connection of my computer was good to go.----The tech told me, their end was fine (yea right) and to go buy another ethernet cable, that phone lines 'ate' them, frequently. val laughed & told me to unplug everything for about 10 minutes.--but before I did that I ran a diagnostic with my vista windows and at the end of all my time,-(i changed nothing)- all was well---I was magically 'connected'.


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That makes 2 of us....i just got 3 no dial tones now.

THen the computer said A device attached to Pennswoods isnt functionion.
Next try it worked......That's living proof.
How stupid do they think we are?
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I'm always here, but I usually stick to the hostess lounge lol... I was linked here by bill; figured I'd drop in and sharae my tech talent hehe


that's what I need...some tech talent idea


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Well, Ethernet Cable connects your PC to a cable/dsl modem; whereas telephone cable connects you to the telephone line for a standard modem...

So, the big question is, broadband or dialup?

If it's broadband (cable/dsl) and it gives you a dialup error, then it means your computer isn't able to read the broadband signal sent by your isp and is poping up the internet connection wiard (or assuing you have a 56k isp)...

This issue would be either your ISP is down, or your connection to them is being blocked (cablemodem off, router off, etc); generally I say to just unplug your hardware (well, router and cable modem) for a couple of seconds, then plug it back in; they all should have status lights on them which can usually tell you what is going on.

If you're on dialup and it's saying no dialtone and you're SURE that the phone line is active (as in you get a dialtone and are able to call someone) you'll want to make sure that your computer is plugged into the phoneline and that nothing is wrong with the wire connecting it to the phone line (try plugging a spare phone into this wire, can you hear a dialtone?)


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Mine is dialup..And yes I am positive I can call out and the spare phone has a dial too............

Now what?



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Lol, did you test the phone cord plugged into the computer?

To be honest, I haven't delt with a dialup issue in like 6 years...


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teach Tell your Sweetie that you want a new computer and an ATT Wireless Card for an early birthday present! rose


lol lol


Me thinks Bill & James are typical ......Computer politicians........

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Get real........Computer web designers , wont ever have no dial errors.
See they have set up their own.........Tee hee.

Need I say more??????
Your so good to Bill..........
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I'm honestly suprised that there are still dialup internet providers... I mean, broadband's price has come down so much


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Originally Posted by Moguai
I'm honestly suprised that there are still dialup internet providers... I mean, broadband's price has come down so much
They have to upgrade the phone lines and equipment in a lot of areas before broadband is available. We hill folk aren't exactly at the top of their upgrade list... mooo

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In Pennsylvania , they dont even have the lines laid in rural areas for Wireless.
Dialup is very popular in our area......However we do have a cell phone tower on my farm.....Can't win them all.

Lots of the internet providers, are kids out of college who start their own business.(Probably like you)

I did take some coarses on computer , but that was when they said Internet was too expensive for a home use.

Were rural.


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Your correct Bill.

Even things like cable tv, it comes to the end of our lane, but if we want it
We pay for the cable to be brought up here, and labor.. No way.
We use the dish.

My son is in town and has Comcast, however his wife has a computer job at home , so she can sit baby and work. Over 100 month, but they have the tv with it .

I just had to buy 2 converter boxes for out tvs.....Rural life is great.
But we dont get frills .


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Originally Posted by jonni13
Yes, living in the boondocks has is benefits and its drawbacks.
Joani

I arent in boon rocks...Nearest town is about 3 mile . I am in the center of about 5 towns.....
We love country life.....
Where else could I have so many flowers and trees??
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Originally Posted by dodge
Mine is dialup..And yes I am positive I can call out and the spare phone has a dial too............

Now what?



mine is DSL--and I was using hte phone to talk to a tech that my server provides----and I had checked all cabels & such--all was plugged in---(did I mention I have a wireless router?//---my DD's want to be able to use their laptops when they come over---

but here it is all good now--so I think Mine was a server issue.


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See........now you dont think these servers are going to admit fault , do you ?

However , we have to admit this good guy who owns gardenhelper and his side Kick are good to us ............

Where else would we have so many subjects and issues solved ?
And niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee friends..
We love visiting CH..........online..

ok NUf of that.

Long Live cedar hill.............

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Originally Posted by Moguai
I'm honestly suprised that there are still dialup internet providers... I mean, broadband's price has come down so much
They have to upgrade the phone lines and equipment in a lot of areas before broadband is available. We hill folk aren't exactly at the top of their upgrade list... mooo
Well, people in your situation have Satelite Internet available ;)...

Originally Posted by dodge
Your correct Bill.

Even things like cable tv, it comes to the end of our lane, but if we want it
We pay for the cable to be brought up here, and labor.. No way.
We use the dish.

My son is in town and has Comcast, however his wife has a computer job at home , so she can sit baby and work. Over 100 month, but they have the tv with it .

I just had to buy 2 converter boxes for out tvs.....Rural life is great.
But we dont get frills .
If their comcast is over a month they'd have the superpack, which is far more than just internet; it'd be internet and telephone and/or cable tv...

I'm on Comcast here, with the premium plan, and it's only like $60/mo


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They have the tv included in it ......Maybe that is the killer.
We pay about $52 . for direct tv satellite dish.( the cheap package0


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Well, people in your situation have Satelite Internet available ;)...


Not necessarily! We were finally able to get high speed a few months ago and before that I had called every internet provider and no one offered it at our house. So...dial-up it was until they finally got smart and offered out our way. We are definitely not at the top of their priority list but just because we live in the country does not mean we don't like to have TV and internet too!!

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They told my friend to go get signatures for that??????Nothing happened.



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a friend of mine lives at just the esdge of town and she cannot have cable. if the DSL didn't go thru the phone lines she would still be on dail-up too.


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Yeah there is no way anyone can get rid of the internet. Its not just this country but a global phenomenon.

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