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I finally found them I can't believe it!!!! I have looked and looked,, today I decided to go to Lowes,, and there they were,, clap clap clap

coconut lime! Echinacea (coneflower)
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Description: This new Echinacea could be described as a taller, white flowering version of 'Pink Double Delight' PPAF since it's the first-ever double white echinacea. The center pompon starts out green and ages to pale lime green with an orange cone. The ray petals are white. These unique flowers are produced atop strong, well-branched stems from mid through late summer. This new hybrid comes from the breeding work of AB Cultivars in The Netherlands
Bloom Color: White/light lime green
Bloom Time: July-August
Foliage Color: Green
Height: 24-30"
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and Echinacea purpurea 'Pink Double Delight'
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Description: This brand new Echinacea has flowers that are similar to 'Razzmatazz' but has a shorter, more compact habit. A profusion of true bright pink, pompon-like flowers which measure about 3" across are produced on strong, well-branched stems from mid through late summer. The flowers are long-lasting, turning lavender pink as they age. This new selection comes from the breeding work of AB Cultivars in The Netherlands.
Bloom Color: Bright Pink
Bloom Time: Summer to fall
Foliage Color: Green
Height: 18-24"
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Description: Aptly named, this selection sports earthy gold flowers the color of a harvest moon with a golden orange cone. . Plant it up close where you can enjoy its delightful rose-like fragrance. The bloom ages to a very pale gold with a bold gold center ,, blooms are long lasting.They are well-branched and are vigorous growers.

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I love them ALL Diane--but I esp. love the yellow(Harvest moon??)-----all of them VEREY nice--and I was just AT Lowes too------I guess I do not have very good eyes--- why


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NOOOOOOOOOOO FAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIR!!!

But really - those are GORGEOUS!!!
Great finds! Each one is prettier than the last!

I could have gotten the first 2 earlier this summer, at 2 different nurseries, but these were the very expensive places so I held back. I'm so glad you were able to get them at Lowes though! I think maybe a visit to mine is in order very soon, but with my luck they won't have any since this one doesn't get in great plants unfortuntely. It's probably a good thing though, since the deer loves echinacea here...

Hope you enjoy these Diane - where have you planted them?


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Thanks all!
I have them planted where the Black eyed susans ( Up along same side of the fence as the Birdfeeder planter,), didn't come back this year for some odd reason,, that area gets about 6 hours of full sun everyday,, and further down is the fanfare and the blue mountain cone flower is beyond that, Btw it's getting bigger and bigger now Lynne so maybe blooms by Sept?? They had sooooo many of these at Lowes and they didn't dead head and seeds were just falling off at the touch,, the soil in all three of mine had many seeds just laying on top so I got an extra bonus with the buy,,


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nothing wrong with that! I especially love the 'Harvest Moon'!
I've never had the patience to grow cone's since they are biennieals. I didn't know lowes sold them already in bloom. and you got some with seeds!


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my purple ones come up every year.................


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all of my cone flowers have always come back every year too Carol. even if they didn't they drop seeds so I'd have blooms every year anyway thumbup


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Good point Diane---


I do so like your double ones--Diane--that was certainly quite a find !!!


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I Love Love love that one especially : my heart pounded excitedly when I saw those,!!!!!!!


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Gonna have to go back to Lowe's I can see it now---

I guess I did not look good enough, huh???


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I go to Lowes on a mission everytime I go there, I only shop there for their flowers,, I never go inside the store,, Their gardening area is so very organized, they have their perennials on the first 4 tables,, starting with the lowest growing plants first for shade,, second two tables are full sun so those are the tables I always go straight to,, so they were easy to spot, I'm screwed if they ever change their format of plant placement,, lol


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I guess I will have to pay more attention next time I go--which will be monday it seems lol thumbup--I always thought it was just a hodge podge in mine--perhaps there is SOME method to their madness after all???

but I AM going now for sure........


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Diane, I'm convinced you live in a green house somewhere. I'll bet the humidity is making your hair fuzzy.



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WOW Diane - I wish our Lowes was organized like that - it is a mess of drying out plants usually! If I'm not lucky enough to be there on a day of plant delivery it's a waste of time and gas to go there!!!


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Originally Posted by Bestofour
Diane, I'm convinced you live in a green house somewhere. I'll bet the humidity is making your hair fuzzy.


I wish I did live in a green house . No humidity here it's been sooooo dry here,, very bad spring and summer for rains. My water Bill is thru the roof watering everything I want to absolutely save from the heat,, it will get to 104 today not a drop of rain in the forecast suppose to stay that hot all week,, My hair is very very straight and thin all the heat does to it is make it even flatter than it already is,, boohoo humidity only makes me sweat more making it stick to my head, lol lol


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I just keep comiong back and coming back----I cannot look at them enough--they are perfection !!!! thumbup shots


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I hope you can get them tomorrow Carol clap


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I have had to dig up AT LEAST a dozen coneflowers this summer due to yellow aster disease??? And they are my FAVORITE! boohoo


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Originally Posted by ND farm girl
I have had to dig up AT LEAST a dozen coneflowers this summer due to yellow aster disease??? And they are my FAVORITE! boohoo


so Patty--what is yellow Aster disease????

Diane--I hope so as well----but thanks for the thought


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It's a disease caused by leaf hoppers - affects mostly in coneflowers. They are dwarfed and mutant. These pictures are pictures of Purple coneflowers that have been healthy for years!

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I was at Lowe's yesterday and went to look at the plants. They had no coneflowers at all! I was disappointed. They didn't have many perennials for that matter. So...I didn't get anything....as far as plants go anyways. We have to paint our 2nd garage so we were there buying paint. rspb Our house and attached garage is sided but not the other garage. I don't mind painting but it is a big garage.

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well, I went to Lowes---and while they had flowers and bushes and such--NO coneflowers AT ALL----I decided I will wait until next year----


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awwwwwwwwww Jessica and Carol I'm sorry,, I was wondering if all Lowes carry the same flowers,, I noticed on the tag these were brought in from Florida,, So I figured they wouldn't go all the way to Ill or MN, boohoo , I'll go back to Lowes and see if any of them need some of the browned flower heads removed,, notme devil for ya lol lol


Naaaaaaaaaah I'm too scaredy to do that,, nervous nervous and not buy the plant boohoo


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Oh no you're not!!! lol neenee You can do it, Diane!!!

I am going to my Lowes tomorrow, but I can almost guarantee that any plants they have there will be crispy and fried!


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Originally Posted by plants 'n pots
Oh no you're not!!! lol neenee You can do it, Diane!!!


yea what she said !!!!!! lol


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You are helping Diane, they need to be dead headed to bloom better haha


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I Know your'e so right Tamara,, But what if I get caught,? nervous I couldn't even blame Cindy,, she's too far away,, and you three are even further away nervous and I will be just stuck out there by my self egad with a handful of seeds and no intent to buy a plant,,, You guys are trying to get me in twouble boohoo haha haha


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Then you explain you are just deadheading them to bloom better and that you were holding the blooms to throw in a trash can when you found one. haha


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Oh-Oh - another one I have to have!


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Very nice htf! Though a bit too red for my taste - I'd prefer it more orange.

Just as I suspected... my Lowes had a very poor selection of plants yesterday and most of them were crispy fried! They even had a display of some very browned fuschias in large hanging pots - the signs said "take me home", so I thought they were free? Nooooo - they were on clearance for $5.99!!! GIVE ME A BREAK!!! The plants were all but dead!

Diane - you do remember that there are those of us on this website who are capable of getting a cake into jail, right??? lol why (or were you not a member when that long thread was going on?) GET THOSE seeds! neenee


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Originally Posted by plants 'n pots
Very nice htf! Though a bit too red for my taste - I'd prefer it more orange.

Just as I suspected... my Lowes had a very poor selection of plants yesterday and most of them were crispy fried! They even had a display of some very browned fuschias in large hanging pots - the signs said "take me home", so I thought they were free? Nooooo - they were on clearance for $5.99!!! GIVE ME A BREAK!!! The plants were all but dead!

Diane - you do remember that there are those of us on this website who are capable of getting a cake into jail, right??? lol why (or were you not a member when that long thread was going on?) GET THOSE seeds! neenee




Yep I remember,, well either I read it or was told about it,, I've sleep 3 years since then,, lol

Okay Okayyyyyyyyy ,,, I'll head to lowes tomorrow when I get off work,, IF you have to get a cake to me, after I'm forced to leave Lowes nervous boohoo nervous boohoo , at least make it red velvet,, K??? I'd better wear my scrubs to work tomorrow that have a lot of pockets in them notme Keeping in mind the whole time Tamara words of Advice,, Helping deadhead to promote more blooms ,, Anddddddd then they'd have more sales,,,,, * Gotta make them believe it's benefiting them* and looking for a trashcan ,, ,Okay Gotta it Tamara!! thumbup haha


HTF!!!!!!!!!!!! WOWWWWWWWWW I love that one! The color tones in it is like that of the Mexican fire bush,, I love the tips of the petals with that golden fireryness to it,, clap clap


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Diane--While I know nothing of the thread Lynne talks about--I promise to find out--AND I promise to be a quick study and learn how to bake such a cake if the need arrises.

flwr AND____TaDa !! flwr

I live closer to you than my other 2 "partners in crime", so I am guessing the "cake baking" will fall upon me, HUH??? lol kissie

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Hey did that 'cake baking' thing have to do with Cindy? It sounds familiar...we must look up that topic again.


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Originally Posted by JunieGirl
Diane--While I know nothing of the thread Lynne talks about--I promise to find out--AND I promise to be a quick study and learn how to bake such a cake if the need arrises.

flwr AND____TaDa !! flwr

I live closer to you than my other 2 "partners in crime", so I am guessing the "cake baking" will fall upon me, HUH??? lol kissie



I've got one better,, I'll just print this card and take it with me haha haha

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Diane - make sure you have that card with you at all times!!! thumbup

Afterall... you never know when a seed might jump out at you why, or better yet, a cutting might be laying on the floor somewhere and you just might have to "rescue" it!!! clap

Carol - since you are closer... make sure that cake is regulation size, and the favorite flavor of the prison guards! grin


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Well then--yes a "get out of jail free" card is the ticket for sure!!!

but it never hurts to have a plan "B" haha.

Lynne, I'll tell yo uwhat---I will make 2 cakes---A choc one for the prison guards and a red velvet one for the prisoner. How does that sound???


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sounds good to me Carol keep those gaurds busy while I make my escape neenee too bad Cindy doesn't live close,, she could play the air guitar to entertain them as they eat their cake,, lol lol Now that would be a great diversion notme


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Diane - you do remember that there are those of us on this website who are capable of getting a cake into jail, right??? lol why (or were you not a member when that long thread was going on?) GET THOSE seeds! neenee



ummmmm cake. I'm going seed collecting.



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Sheri lol lol

Well I did get some seeds,, But they had already been picked over pretty good, Only one coconut lime and harvest Moon left,, and 5 double pink delights,
I got a fair amont of DP delights and one from each of the other two,, and I placed both those two in one pocket not thinking,, rolz touched Now I don't know which is c-lime and which is harvest moon egad I had a pocket full of DP delights,, and loads of large Zinna's * You can see in blooming fine,& single shots in single shot thread,, :wink: *
I also got purslane crossed with moss rose grande' these were awesome but not on sale ... large pink and white 5 petaled blooms,,

So I had a very productive day at Lowes and didn't need my get out of jail free card or a cake after all,, haha


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shock nooooooooo I don't.... lol

I shorten the story about what happened yesterday, wanna hear it? here is goes,,, nooo lol The cashier recognized me from the last few Fridays I've gone there,, She had heard me last time fussing out loud to my self notme about "if the workers here would just dead head these flowers they'd set off a lot more blooms and stop watering at two in the afternoon with the blazing sun on them on top of watering over the plants instead of at the bottom there wouldn't be so much fungus going on,," touched . and She saw me deadheading and just placing the spent blooms on the table. ANYWAY,,,,,,,,, She asked me are you going to dead head again,,?? I said excuse me ma'am?? she repeated again,, , well I er,,, they need it tapfoot ya know?,, she said Noooo it's okay thumbup there are a 3 ladies that come in and complain about the same thing, and they dead head and take the seeds home with them,, I see them and don't care I now hand them snack sized ziplock bags, as long as they get me some I turn the other way haha ",, She asked me to get her some Zinna seeds from the plants on the clearance rack,, so I did,, in turn she Gave me a 2 gallon large pink Zinna plant, ,, so it goes to show it's good to have a repore' with a business you frequent and a good sense of humor as you walk in the door, and it's a bonus when you and the employee is on the same page, lol thumbup grin


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OH MY Word-- lol--I so wish I had of been there Diane-- lol--and good for you. !!!!


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What a surprise to see this white double cone flower growing out of the coconut lime<<!


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growing out of a different plant??! How cool is that?! Never know what you might get!


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This whole story has been so funn!!!!

I didn't think they would care if you deadheaded the plants!! Good for you!


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I know WE would not have cared if you deandheaded the flowers--- blush why shots Another beautiful picutre of another beautiful flower.---

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The Coconut lime and DBL Pink Delight is still giving ,me Blooms,. I do Believe the harvest Moon is done,, It's not dying back but not setting blooms either,,,

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Echinacea, commonly called Purple Coneflower, is a genus of nine species of herbaceous plants in the family Asteraceae.

The flowers in the Post above yours are all In the family of Asteraceae cone flowers, varieties


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Typically One just says Cone flower,, Enchinacea has been mentioned here on the GH many many times,, Do you have any Cone flowers Enrique'?


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once again, Diane--they are simply beautiful!!!!

so tell me do you have a really really big yard ot is it just that a large portion of your yard is flowers instead of grass???


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No it's Not that Big really this house I believe the land size is a lot and 1/2 what ever that means I read it on the deed.. lol why lol The entire east side border and west side Border is Where all the flowers are . When I step out of the back door to the right I cleared a 10X10 ft sq area laid white rock down and created a sitting area ,, over the last 4 yrs it has transitioned into a rock garden/ fairy garden,/ sitting area with 2 sitting benches in it and the arbor gate,, and more and more flowers are getting planted in it , but there is still grass to mow,, IF I had my way I would only have flat smooth pebbled walking paths and NO grass to mow at all,, I would have the entire back yard in flowers and plants, sitting areas bird baths etc I'd LOVE to have a little pond ,, But,,,,,,,,, sadly I can't have my way, boohoo , so I settle on filling in the around the perimeter,,

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thank you for all yor time and trouble, Diane.

You have done a very good job. and what have in flowers is very nice.

Thanks for showing me. and I have no idea what the size of a "lot" is.
mine is a but less than 1/2 acre. 154 ft by 134 ft or some such. why
..again here too, it is jsut what the deed says.

I would love to have landscaped areas along the house on the other 3 sides (back is pretty much done as I'd like) and then do some 'gardening' in them, but nope--not gonna happen here either. touched


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Diane, I like your yard. It's so neat. I would love to have an arbor like yours. Right now my entire yard is knee deep in leaves. Don't know why I'm surprised - it happens every year.



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Looking again do you have TWO gazing balls?



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Thanks Carol and Sheri,, I have about 5 gazing balls in all some are just nestled in the flowers on the ground,, Just never bought the stands for them


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I'm putting gazing balls on my Christmas list for sure because I love that you have many. My daughters think they're tacky and have refused to buy me one even though I always tell them that's what I want. I only have 1 silver one that I bought myself. I've got a new plan. I'm going to tell Darbi, my grand daughter, because she will aggravate her mother until she buys me one. That's how I got my solid yellow unbrella.



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Oh Sheri Gazing balls comes in sooooo many designs and colors now,, The choice is soooooo wide from Moziac to Pictures on them to solid, stripes , swirls, solor, multi splashes and the stand for them are the same From Collums to wrought Iron,, I am actually using a very very cheap candle holder turn Upside down using the base as a holder of the Earth looking Gazing ball,, and I have use terra cotta pots as a holder,, and when placed in the right area it really places a compliment to your areas,, I'm always moving mine around,, they are never at the same spot, well except for the orange and Yellow one,, I like where it is now,, and will probably keep it there,,, But a Blue one will stand out against orange or yellow flowers,, Use them in contrast color to your flowers or plants and it will "Pop" with color in that area, I'm a big fan of them,, Walmart carries them all year,, well at least they do here!


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I want to make my wildflower garden more like your sitting area. I don't have any furniture out there now but I do have a trellis of sorts. I've planted gourd vines on it once but this year they didn't come up, because of the drought, so it's bare. I didn't want to plant jasmine on it because of the bees but I would like to have something that will remain everygreen. I've not done anything much with that area because Johnny keeps talking about putting in a pool but it hasn't happened so I'm going for it. I'm going to put a few gazing balls out there. It's a big area.



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I bet some of the Bleeding heart Vine will look good on the trellis,, I could start you a piece of it if you want me too, and Walmart and Target have those arches like I have in the Picture above,, The legs of it is even small enough to slip thru the Bottom hole of terracotta pots then fill with soil and plant something in a four of them it will help secure the arch IF I had been thinking I would have done that when I placed the first arch in, a Bench Idea is two large Terra cotta Pots turned up side down with a Wide board sat on top That would make a cool looking wildflower area bench ,, or even Large heavy plastic pots turned upside down for the same purpose,,


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emde: I think between all of us we could fix that issue if you would like


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I do not know--I defer to Diane.....


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Originally Posted by emdeGardener2
Will they grow in zone 9?


yep they will!

Probably for the length they grow here spring thru fall,, sometimes don't even die back all the way!


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most certainly!!!~

I have a few from this year, and some from last year as well...........Purple coneflower (which is actually pink)


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Originally Posted by emdeGardener2
Can they be grown from seeds?


Oh Absolutely easily,, They would do great For you I'm sure!


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Originally Posted by angelblossom
I bet some of the Bleeding heart Vine will look good on the trellis,, I could start you a piece of it if you want me too, and Walmart and Target have those arches like I have in the Picture above,, The legs of it is even small enough to slip thru the Bottom hole of terracotta pots then fill with soil and plant something in a four of them it will help secure the arch IF I had been thinking I would have done that when I placed the first arch in, a Bench Idea is two large Terra cotta Pots turned up side down with a Wide board sat on top That would make a cool looking wildflower area bench ,, or even Large heavy plastic pots turned upside down for the same purpose,,


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Is that home-made, Sheri?? Did Johnny make it?/

MY Rodney could make me one like that!!!

(But where would I put it???)


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Originally Posted by angelblossom


coconut lime! Echinacea (coneflower)
zones 3-8

Description: This new Echinacea could be described as a taller, white flowering version of 'Pink Double Delight' PPAF since it's the first-ever double white echinacea. The center pompon starts out green and ages to pale lime green with an orange cone. The ray petals are white. These unique flowers are produced atop strong, well-branched stems from mid through late summer. This new hybrid comes from the breeding work of AB Cultivars in The Netherlands
Bloom Color: White/light lime green
Bloom Time: July-August
Foliage Color: Green
Height: 24-30"
Spread: 30-36"




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and Echinacea purpurea 'Pink Double Delight'
Coneflower
zones 3-8[/color]

Description: This brand new Echinacea has flowers that are similar to 'Razzmatazz' but has a shorter, more compact habit. A profusion of true bright pink, pompon-like flowers which measure about 3" across are produced on strong, well-branched stems from mid through late summer. The flowers are long-lasting, turning lavender pink as they age. This new selection comes from the breeding work of AB Cultivars in The Netherlands.
Bloom Color: Bright Pink
Bloom Time: Summer to fall
Foliage Color: Green
Height: 18-24"
Spread: 12-18"


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Echinacea 'Harvest Moon'™
Cone flower
zones 4-9

Description: Aptly named, this selection sports earthy gold flowers the color of a harvest moon with a golden orange cone. . Plant it up close where you can enjoy its delightful rose-like fragrance. The bloom ages to a very pale gold with a bold gold center ,, blooms are long lasting.They are well-branched and are vigorous growers.

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Remember these from last Year??


The Double Pink delight and harvest moon is coming back!!!!!! I removed the leaves I used to protect them from winter and there is green leaves on both of them, * more on the DPink Delight*,, There is no sign of life on the Coconut lime boohoo tho' , But keeping My fingers crossed, I did save seeds,, so I'll plant them and see what happens!!!!


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You sent me seeds too, I think, so we'll work on it.



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I put out my gazing ball that I got at Hobby Lobby I think. It was one of those places you guys told me to go.

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you can see the hens and chicks dodge gave me in the strawberry jar.



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we have all sorts of daffs out in the pecan orchard. Yellow, yellow and white, orange and white. They're so pretty.

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the wierd weather has caused the spirea to bloom over and over

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the jasmine smells so good.

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I just realized that I put all these in the wrong thread. I'm too lazy to move them. Sorry.



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That's Okay Sheri,,,,,,,, I enjoy your flowers No matter where you post them lol
They are Looking Great!!!!!!!!!


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thanks Dianne. I posted What Sheri need somewhere and now I can't find it to move it. I'm going to bed.



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wavyOHHHHH, Diannnnnnnnnne---Yooo Hoooo-- wavy

I need some advice.......How soon can I plant my Coconut Lime, DBL Pinks and Harvest Moon seeds outside.--and how late can I do the same???? Are there any special directions????

****I need the how late, because Rod is going to 'redo' the edging of my flower bed at some point--and I do not think it will upset the garden proper, but one never knows.....****


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I would as Soon as Possible thumbup ! Sooner you plant ~ sooner they Bloom! I sprinkled seeds around mine before it got cold, I believe the mother plant of the Coconut lime isn't coming back,, Not sure ,, But I think Not.

However I see little seedling coming up HOPEFULLY it's the seeds I planted and NOT some random Bird Gift! lol


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Thanks for getting back to me so soon---
We are having a rainy spell jsut now--(I heard you were too??) When it is over I will be sure to "plant" my wonderful Echinacea seed---ASAP--- clap thumbup


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CAROL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I looked at the CCL again to day,, I for sure have seed sprouting!!!!!!!! and the Harvest Moon is getting Better as is the DPink delight!


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Originally Posted by angelblossom
CAROL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I looked at the CCL again to day,, I for sure have seed sprouting!!!!!!!! and the Harvest Moon is getting Better as is the DPink delight!


Diane---I am SO VERY EXCITED for you---clap clap MY Purple are still not up--too early here yet, I guess.

About me planting my CCL, DBL Pink & HM-- I was watching the local this morning-----apparently I cannot afford to have tender vegetation showing its head so soon here in this neck of the woods---I need to wait a few more weeks---which turns out to be good as next week we are suppose to get heavy rains---& that would just wash out my seed right??? I will wait until the first week of April---


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a lot of people wait until after Easter,, Seems a safe bet I guess in other zones!


The Coconut Lime may be on a comeback after all,, Today I see a Whole Leave NOT from a seed AND seedlings coming up!

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Here is the Harvest Moon,, coming back

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I loved the flowers of the Coconut Lime and the Pink Delight!!
Saved your photos from before! blush

Can't wait until they bloom again!


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WOW I am way impressed, Diane---the DBL Pink and the Harvest Moon look like mine will around the end of may or so--

I am especially VERY happy/pleased that your Coconut Lime is making a comeback. shots


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