A Gardeners Forum Forums Members History Forum Life 2006 new pole bean pics

i took some pics of my garden today, with special attention to my pole bean leaves. if anyone knows by sight whats wrong with them let me know. i think it might be phosphorus or some kind of fungus.

There aren't any insects on the back side of the leaves are there? Some of the leaves look kind of crinkly like from aphids. It's hard to say, though. Could you get more of a closeup of the leaves.

How moist it your soil? It looks awfully dark. Could it be too wet. And how warm is the soil? Do you have a soil thermometer? Phosphorus deficiencies show up in tomatoes when they are in cold wet soil.

they might be a bit wet from time to time. and yes it probably gets cold over there. maybe i should set up a small heater under the table they are sitting on.
there are some bugs, but i dont think they are aphids. they are small black flies or gnats. i call'em fruit flies. i havent been able to get rid of them since i started making wine. but i dont think they hurt the plant any. i will try to get a better closeup of the leaves

Wow Wizzard I am impressed! Get a soil tester. Do you feed the beans??? If so what have been feeding them??

i have fed them some slow release miracle grow. thats about it. soil tester.... do those work more than once?

On the soil tester..it depends on which one you get. I haven't used one, but have looked into it and think that having one would be a good idea.

Hi Wizzard I'm new here. I noticed your post and thought I would give my little bit of advice for what it's worth. The gnats your talking about are called Fungus Gnats. They are very harmful to your plants and they love moist soil!

They lay eggs in the soil, and these eggs turn into larvae. The larvae feed on you plants root system until they grow old enough to crawl out of the soil and became these gnats- that are not harmful directly (but are in the other form). The larvae they produce weaken and eventually kill the plant. Especially if there is a large infestation.

Better airflow in and around you plants can help.
Let the soil dry out in between waters- a soil moisture tester is very helpful. Lastly, a mild pesticide for Fungus gnats. And as a temporary aide until you get the pesticide, a little bit of Dawn deterent mixed in your feeding water might deter the gnats from wanting to lay eggs there. Also, a coat of dry sand on the top of the soil will also deter the gnats from laying eggs on your plants. I hope this helps and good luck!

thanx for the info, i may go with the sand option.