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Our gardenia,transplanted from our old place about 5 months ago,is flourishing but not flowering as we are coming to the end of summer Down Under. Can anyone help me?
Muzza

Hello Muzza.
I just got a gardenia recently. I'm no expert but it seems to like a 10 degree drop in temp. at night. Are you fertilizing it. That's all I have to add but wellcome to the garden helper!

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Can I ask a few questions from you first and those answered will help the gardeners coming through narrow something down for you in a bit..

What time of year did you move it?? (ie: was it really hot, stressful.....too muddy)
What did you do to prepare the hole you put your new plant in???
Have you fertilized it?? (ie: too much, not at all)
Have you kept it watered, or over watered..???

And I do have one thing to add, not being an expert on gardenia's by no means, but plants in general sometimes when you plant or re~plant them, they are better in the long haul to establish a GOOD SET OF ROOTS FIRST BEFORE BLOOMING" Maybe that's what it's doing,
(***Setting up house before it has children,
)


Hope some of this info helps,
Happy Gardening!


Weezie

Bringing this one back to the top!

Hi Muzza, I've been doing some reading and found this for you!

Gardenia info at The Garden Helper

Forum Post/Info @ The Garden Helpers Forum

There's alot of good reading there!!

Hope this helps!!

Weezie

Hi Muzza,

If you have provided all the requirements for growing Gardenia, you might want to check up on the temperature.

To force the Gardenia to flower, the ideal temperatures are about 18*-21* Celsius during the day and 15.5*-16.6* Celsius at night.

flowers will fail to form if the day temperatures are higher than 21* Celsius or night temperatures less than 15.5* Celsius.

Part of the problem could be that your day temperatures are about 23*-28* Celsius (day) and 12*-14* Celsius (night).

I WOULD NEVER BE RUDE TO SUCH A GREAT SITE, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL TEMPERATURE'S ARE YOU SENT TO MUZZA. WE ALL DON'T DO CELSIUS. MAYBE I SHOULD LEARN. THANKS.

hey mzshirley, bill posted a chart to change them in one of these posts. i don't remember which one it was. i'll try to dig it up and pm you a link. i can't do celcius from memory either!

WEEZIE, I NEED TO ASK U A QUESTION... DO U KNOW WHAT A BLACK BAT plant IS? I BOUGHT ONE IN THE MARK DOWN SECTION OF WALLYMART. ITS A RARE TROPICAL plant. MAYBE SOMEONE WILL LET ME KNOW IF THEY HAVE OR EVER HAD ONE. HAD ONE LEAF WHEN I GOT IT. NOW IT HAS 2.

hey shirley, here i go answering another before weezie! if you do a forum search, there is info on that very plant.

Temperature Conversions.

note:

Tc = temperature in Celsius

Tf = temperature in Fahrenheit
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To convert Fahrenheit to Celsius:

Tc = (5/9) x (Tf-32)

a. divide 5 by 9 = 0.555
b. subtract 32 from Fahrenheit temp.
c. multipy 0.555 by the reduced Fahrenheit temp.

ex: Tf = 62*F

a. divide 5 by 9 = 0.555
b. subtract 32*F from 62*F = 30*F
c. multiply 30 x 0.555 = 16.65*C

62*F is about 16.65*C

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To Convert Celsius to Fahrenheit:

Tf = (9/5) x (Tc) + 32*F

a. divide 9 by 5 = 1.8
b. multiply 1.8 by the Celsius temp.
3. add 32*F

ex. Celsius temp. = 16.6*C

a. divide 9/5 = 1.8
b. multiply 1.8 x 16.6*C = 29.88
c. add 32 to 29.88 = 61.88*F

16.6*C is about 62*F (0.88 rounded off to 1.0)

I should have indicated the temperatures in both Fahrenheit and Celsius. I am sorry I didn't do that at the time I made the post.

I now have indicated the temperatures in both Celsius and Fahrenheit. See below.

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To force the Gardenia to flower, the ideal temperatures are about 18*-21* Celsius/ 65*-70* Fahrenheit during the day and 15.5*-16.6* Celsius/60*-62*Fahrenheit at night.

flowers will fail to form if the day temperatures are higher than 21* Celsius/70*Fahrenheit or night temperatures less than 15.5* Celsius/60* Fahrenheit.

Part of the problem could be that your day temperatures are about 23*-28* Celsius/75*-82*Fahrenheit (day) and 12*-14* Celsius/54*-57*Fahrenheit (night).
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I'm not used to message boards and I am NOT a green thumb.

But I live in South FL. I have had a gardenia bush since I moved into my house.

I had not trimmed it in many years! I have recently (late at night and it was cold) done some trimming, It does flower all year long.

While I trimmed, I did collect some clips. I now have some healthy looking roots growing.

I want to know what is next??? My soil is very sandy and I'm close to the ocean. I'm not a gardener but I LOVE THIS AROMA.

THANKS!

hi schoe welcome to the garden helper. congrats on your gardenia cuttings. what i would do is mix a good quality potting soil like miracle grow, with some sand and pot the cuttings up. after you see some new leaf growth, then you can plant them out where you want them.